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Finished reading After Dachau. It's very interesting, having read Daniel Quinn's other works. Specifically Ishmael. One of the first allegories brought up in that book is expanded upon to form the basis of this one.

It's also interesting because it seems to exist on three levels.
  • surface level story
  • what Quinn's telling a new reader
  • what he's telling his long-time followers
I'm nearly positive those last two categories are separate. The whole thing's a little muddled, really, which is unusual for this author. But it's still an entertaining read, and well recommended. Just go through the other books first.

(I can't give you any more details than that. Nothing personal)


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Feb. 24th, 2001 05:21 pm (UTC)
I'll try to remind you again, when I know for sure.
I bet I'll be coming out Friday night. (March 3rd) Try to remember to bring the book with you, so I can borrow it. Unfortunately, unless it shows up Wednesday, I still don't have the Deadman action figure...

Kurt Onstad
Deadman for Dachau...What a trade...
Feb. 24th, 2001 05:48 pm (UTC)
You had to show up the night of the cast party?

Can't really invite you to that. And I'll likely be dead tired in the morning.

** sigh **
Feb. 24th, 2001 06:14 pm (UTC)
Re: Ugh.
Shame about that. And I'll have to be at work the next afternoon, so by the time you wake up, I'll be gone (assuming we stay out the night at all, she normally has a 9:00 class she teaches in Irvine...)

Hey, you're the director. You should be allowed to invite anyone you want! (Seriously...I've never been to a cast party that was only cast and crew. The key word is "party.")

Kurt Onstad
And I've already met one of your cast members...
Feb. 25th, 2001 12:48 pm (UTC)
harsh, but asked for...
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Hey, you're the director. You should be allowed to invite anyone you want!
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I'm one director, of three. For there are three one-acts in production, and this cast party covers all of them. We've been very careful not to step on each other's toes, particularly in front of each other's casts. Which means the directors might be able to grant each other such power, but not themselves.

It's a strange sort of social order, but taking that attitude for even a moment would villify me and humiliate my cast. There are unspoken rules, and you really can't challenge them from the outside.

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(Seriously...I've never been to a cast party that was only cast and crew. The key word is "party.")
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No, the key phrase was "I've never been". The statement that you were never invited to a party in which you weren't welcome, besides being subjective and likely untrue, is circular. It can't be held up as evidence that those parties don't occur. Every group is different. But the rules are the same - all that really varies is what constitutes an outsider.

I could bring a girlfriend if we've been going out for a while, and I think I could get away with bringing my brother, but in both cases I'd need to have initiated them into the group prior to this. Likewise, I could probably extend the invitation to cast and crew members of recent productions. Any of those would be considered peripheral to the group. You're a level below that.

If you take a moment to reflect on the social dynamic of cast parties you've been to, I think you'll find this is consistant with your experience. I can only think of one instance where that order was not maintained, and there was no question in anyone's mind that something was wrong. The phrase "cast party" can only be stretched so far - both words are key.

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And I've already met one of your cast members...
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Experience should have told you even before you typed those words that that I'd view that as an infestation.
My worlds do not invade one another.

That's a subject for another time, though. Fact is, the few people you've met aren't enough. The majority of the group needs to have spent enough time with you to be comfortable in your presence. Director or not, no one person's allowed to violate that.

If you came; if I wasn't a person who thinks these things through, the question when you got there would still have to be "do I neglect and alienate you, or everyone else?" And I can tell you it wouldn't be a struggle to decide - you're vastly outnumbered, and you went out of your way to put me in that position.

So, no. I can't invite you, I don't want to invite you, and it was really never up for discussion.
It's frustrating, but that's just unfortunate timing.

The plays start at 8:00. I have to be in there at 6. Available all day prior to that, but not long after. Sorry.
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